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Warhammer Alliance Follows Up on State of the Game

Garthik, of Warhammer Alliance, had a chance to have a phone chat with Mark Jacob on his recent State of the Game.

Following the announcement of Warhammer Online getting pushed into 2008, Mark Jacobs of EA Mythic was nice enough to conduct a brief phone interview on the subject. The focus of course was the delay, but also some great details about crafting and the varied server rule-sets that will be implemented during beta.

With the latest release of information it's obvious to anyone following the game the folks at Mythic are pushing for some revamped RvR. I got curious when Mark mentioned a couple of possible server rule-sets in one of his posts, I asked him to explain the rule sets that they're tinkering around with.

Click the link to read the whole interview.

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I'm glad we're going to get strictly RvR realms. That'll be fun as hell and interesting since ganking lowbies wont be as much of an issue. I can't wait to see what the crafting system will look like now. Cross server queuing does sound like a bad idea. If it's a problem they can always implement it later. But now like before the BC in WoW we might get some more realm pride and rivalries going on.

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Personally, I'm against cross-server queues and hope they don't implement them. They turned the BGs in WoW from a place where you jump in every night, and tend to see the same few people (which I liked, because after a while, we were 3-capping the Alliance in 6 min. all night), into an anonymous killfest. I want RvR to be a way to make a name for yourself, and having multiple servers queueing together just makes it that much harder in the scenarios.

News on the different server rulesets is expected, and good to see they won't get too carebear, and the crafting system sounds interesting.

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I do agree with your arguments against cross-server queues, but sitting around waiting for others to join the queue for half an hour is less fun than not being able to make a name for yourself.

However, I think that since most people seem to realize that WAR will be PvP heavy, that should be less of a problem, especially for a long while after release.

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Hope they have a RP RvR server.

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You Rper =p (They probably will, if not at launch they'll get them eventually)

Dogs of war should help out filling spots in scenarios so it probably wont be a huge problem.

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Exactly, Dogs of War prevent queues from going too long, so there's no need to have cross-server queues, as long as they don't pull a idiotic move like Blizzard and make way more servers than they can handle, which I don't imagine they'll do.

And bah to RP servers, bah I say! My brother and his friends are a lot funnier when they don't have to abide by any RP rules, plus WoW turned me away from them with all the gross ERPing. Artillery will likely be rolling on an Open RvR server.

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Mythic's biggest reason for looking at cross-server queues is because the team eventually want to do away with Dogs of War eventually. IMO though I do believe that crossing server hurts realm pride a bit on a server.

And who the hell needs RP servers.....drunk PvPers on Vent are all the entertainment you need.

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In my defense, I like RP servers mainly for name restrictions. I prefer to be immersed in my games, and seeing Nelfs with names like Ishootjew and Croxtickle really destroy that. Besides that, I don't really RP.

P.S. I missed something. What's Dogs of War?

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"The main perpetrator of this monkey lie [evolution] is Charles Darwin. He claims to have developed this 'theory' after studying 'finches' on the Galapagos 'Islands,' but I can guess why he really came up with it. He was on the Galapagos Islands for Spring Break, got smashed, woke up in bed next to a monkey, and then had to come up with a theory that make it all okay."

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I used to think RP servers had overall better and more mature communities, but they'll mostly just elitest jerks. Plus my brother and his friends can't run around a capital city yelling about how they eat glass and like to party.

Dogs of War are NPCs that will be put into the scenario if there aren't enough players queued to start a full one, so that they don't have to wait for any current scenarios to end. The Dogs of War also will be immediatly replaced by any players that join the queue.

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The elitist jerks really isn't a very good excuse Chi =p. Just like rolling on a PvE server and the lead PvE guild being complete elitist jerks. Or a PvP server where the premade PvP teams going up against pugs and arena teams are all elitist jerks. Every form of everything has elitist jerks. That's a part of the internets.

For more reference on this phenomenon see: This

Never did roll on a RP server myself. Thought about it a few times, but I got sick of grinding in WoW so I never bothered to reroll to grind some more. From what I hear the players are more mature in the higher levels, it's the low levels where people hop on when their normal servers are down to come and make fun of people. Then again apparently for any RPing at higher levels you'd have to find a good guild.

I never did care too much personally. I just wanted my quests to give me waypoints and solid objectives. I never would read the quest text. (Lightheaded + Cartographer = Win)

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And that's certainly a style of gameplay I can understand. When I really am pushing for levels I skip a lot of the flavor text too, but on most occassions I really do prefer to be as immersed as possible. Without it, I just feel like I'm pressing buttons to make a lot of 0s turn to 1s, with the end goal of being able to compare how many 1s I have with everyone else. Granted that's exactly what is happening, I just prefer for the wool to stay over my eyes =D

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"The main perpetrator of this monkey lie [evolution] is Charles Darwin. He claims to have developed this 'theory' after studying 'finches' on the Galapagos 'Islands,' but I can guess why he really came up with it. He was on the Galapagos Islands for Spring Break, got smashed, woke up in bed next to a monkey, and then had to come up with a theory that make it all okay."

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PvE progression elitests I couldn't give two fudges about. If they need to treat a game like a job and do everything before everyone to feel good about themselves, go for it. They typically keep to themselves, save for the server 1st posts. And I'm basically one of those PvP elitests, so I'm right at home there. :D

I mean RP elitests. They think that their way of RPing is the only right way to do it and will trash everyone who doesn't RP how they do. My other excuse would be the ERPing. If you've been reading any kind of WoW news in the past few months, you would have likely heard about Abhorrent Taboo, an ERP guild from my server (Ravenholdt) that got disbanded. Altough I got lucky and find a very nice group of people on the server, if I ever went back to WoW, I'd get off that server asap, as knowing that AT just remade their guild immediatly (Vile Anathema now I believe), I can't share a server with that.

The coolest people I've met in WoW and DAoC have been on PvP servers. I even made a buncha friends on the Alliance my brother and I would constantly bump into while leveling and have a good brawl or two.

I always read quest text, and that's why my brother would always ask me where we were going and what we were doing for every quest. :P

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It's seriously the same thing (other than the ERPing which just stay away from it if you hate it so much) You make it sound like they are people cyborzing in the middle of ironforge and having giant orgies in Orgrimmar. Which I don't think is really the case. I'm sure there are plenty of RP guilds that you can join that would fit your style. And if not? Make one yourself is the simple answer. Just like PvE guilds may not like your certain tactic on a boss or may not want your l33t pally DPS.

I suppose I'm at home as well on the PvP elitists. I've always been happy with my PvP abilities. Until recently of course when WoW went to nothing but CC and Crits for strategy.

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Members of AT were randomly whispering new players with the intent of cybering. I've seen screens of several instances were the person being whispered said they were under 18, and the AT member continued with the cyborz, which is how I believe they were disbanded and all issued final warnings. They also seeked out and encouraged guildies to partake in certain things that if done in real-life are highly illegal. The fact that they grew to the size that they did before Blizzard stepped in is rather pathetic. Unless the GMs actually enforce RP rules, something Blizzard doesn't do at all, they turn into a total mess, with half the server populated by people who just rolled there to trash RPers.

I've always had a sense of realm pride in DAoC and WoW, be it from PvP skills, PvE progression or an RP community, even if I'm not a direct part of it, so having that kind of thing on my server totally kills my interest in the game.

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Yikes. Would be nice if they made an ERP server for all the crazies to go. I've never heard of that before, thank God, and I hope I don't again.

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"The main perpetrator of this monkey lie [evolution] is Charles Darwin. He claims to have developed this 'theory' after studying 'finches' on the Galapagos 'Islands,' but I can guess why he really came up with it. He was on the Galapagos Islands for Spring Break, got smashed, woke up in bed next to a monkey, and then had to come up with a theory that make it all okay."

 
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